The Diversity Gap

Is Systemic Change Possible? w/ Adrian Pei

Episode Summary

In Episode 3, Bethaney has a conversation with author and organizational development consultant Adrian Pei. The big topics covered in this conversation include (1) navigating self-doubt as a minority leader (2) engaging the pain, power and past of this work and (3) confronting the challenges large organizations face when they seek to change. Enjoy!

Episode Notes

Adrian Pei works full-time in organizational development and is passionate about diversity training, leadership consulting and coaching. He's the author of The Minority Experience: Navigating Emotional and Organizational Realities. He graduated with degrees from Stanford University and Fuller Seminary. He lives in southern California with his family! You can learn more about Adrian here. You can check out his book, The Minority Experience, here.

The Diversity Gap is a two-year exploration into the gap between good intentions and good impact. You can learn more at You can also follow along on Instagram @thediversitygap or on Facebook!

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